The Woo Woo Channeling Crew

Missy: 00:00

Hi, guys, and welcome back to the Woo Woo Channeling Crew. I'm Missy.

Denise: 00:05

And I'm Denise.

Missy: 00:07

And we are so glad that you are with us today.

Denise: 00:09

Missy and I were sitting, and we're talking about how the trust you have to have in spirit has to be implicit. There's so much going on during a reading for us and for the listener also. Right? Yes. I even had people ask me, like, how do I prepare for a reading?

Denise: 00:26

Or should I prepare for a reading? Or what should my mindset be for a reading? And I listened to these type of questions and I can't help but chuckle because I feel like we are doing the same thing also. How do I prepare? I've been doing this for professionally since 2014.

Denise: 00:44

Right? Missy's been doing it since when? How long, Missy?

Missy: 00:49

Professionally walking away from corporate world just since November 2022.

Denise: 00:57

Well, I was doing readings while I was in the corporate world, so I guess I can't say

Missy: 01:01

oh ok, So eight years.

Denise: 01:02

About Eight years.

Missy: 01:02

Eight years. Yeah.

Denise: 01:03

So think about how we are always learning. You know, there was a time where I thought, okay, after about four or five years, I'll figure it out. Like, we're always learning. Every week that Missy and I speak, there's something new that happens that has never happened before. And you would think after all these years doing all these readings, it's like, how are we still finding new moments? Right?

Missy: 01:28

Yeah.

Denise: 01:28

And so we were talking about how important it is for us to trust spirit. To do this work, you really have to trust. Even when things don't make sense to us in a session, we have to trust what we're hearing. Right? Would you agree?

Missy: 01:46

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think that's been one of the most difficult things really for me is not filtering the reading as I'm doing it, like filtering it in my head. Like, oh, that that's weird. Why would spirit say something like that? That doesn't make any sense. Or that's not fitting into the flow of the reading that's been happening, and why would you throw that in there? And I'm not gonna say that. What if what if I'm wrong? Right?

Missy: 02:14

Like, that that was a struggle for me.

Denise: 02:16

Yes. I remember one time was doing a reading and Spirit told me to say something and I said to Spirit in my head, that doesn't make sense. And Spirit's response was, it's not supposed to make sense to you. This isn't your reading. And that was like a light bulb for me too.

Denise: 02:33

Right? Like, you're right. Like, Denny, sometimes a lot of things that you're going to say aren't supposed to make sense to you. This isn't your reading. So just, you know, chop chop and and and listen to what we're saying.

Denise: 02:45

Right? And sure enough, the minute I say it, they can either validate it or say, nope, that makes sense. Right? It took me a really long time. I still do that.

Denise: 02:55

Just this Sunday, I did a reading and I kept hearing the word gay. And I didn't know if the person wanted to say they were gay or they were trying to imply that the person I was talking to was gay. And I just kept it in the back of my head, the whole reading. And then she brought up something and then she brought up her sexuality. And the person who was coming through was her cousin and, you know, just that was him validating little things about her.

Denise: 03:20

Like, he showed me two other things and then he kept saying gay, but I ignored it. Why did I ignore it? Is it because I didn't wanna go there? I didn't wanna offend? Like, you gotta think about what's going on in our heads while we're hearing what Spirit is saying.

Denise: 03:33

And that was a perfect moment where Spirit said, this isn't supposed to make sense to you. So sure enough, forty minutes into the reading, we start talking about her love life and I realized that she was gay. Yeah. Right? And so I was like, oh, that's why her cousin was saying that.

Denise: 03:51

Well, now I can't say because now it's gonna seem weird. I'm like, oh, yeah. You know, that's funny. Your cousin said that twenty, forty minutes ago. Right?

Denise: 03:58

So then you just twenty minutes to yourself because you don't wanna look stupid, but those are the moments where spirit will say, speak your truth. Right? Always speak your truth.

Missy: 04:07

Yeah. And I think too, sometimes I I can filter. Like, I'm filtering in my mind as I'm hearing the messages because maybe I don't want to I don't wanna be controversial in my reading. You know, bring up something that could be offensive. And I don't mean offensive. You understand where I'm getting at. Like, I I'm not trying to offend the person that I'm reading for. Or exactly. Or judge them for something. We might have talked about this before where I was sitting with, you know, a woman.

Missy: 04:41

She was there with her boyfriend, and he was gonna be coming in to get a reading with me. And she was telling me that she's having an affair. Right. And was dating someone else for, you know, two years, and I'm I'm like, oh my gosh. And I could hear a spirit saying to me, she needs to make like, you have to make a choice.

Missy: 04:59

But I was like, I don't wanna force that on her. I don't know. You know, I was kind of, like Yeah. Filtering what Spirit was saying to present it in a way that I wouldn't be judging her or passing judgment on her.

Denise: 05:12

Yeah.

Denise: 05:12

And that's funny because when I realized hearing this person's family members say they're like, just using the word gay, after the reading, I felt to myself like, Denise, it felt like you didn't wanna deal with it. Yeah. Like if somebody brings up politics and I'm not in the mood, like, I don't wanna talk about and Spirt's like, no. This isn't buddy, this isn't your reading Yeah.

Denise: 05:37

No. You have to have that conversation.

Missy: 05:41

You do you often also filter and I've done this, and then I'll give you an example, but I wanna ask you the question. Do you often filter or have you filtered when you've gotten something so specific, like a detail about the kind of car that they they drove, like spirits stepping forward, and they wanna talk about the car that they drove. But rather than saying, oh, I'm see you know, it's a blue Corvette. You might just go, oh, looks like a sports car. Because giving that specific

Denise: 06:10

Yeah.

Missy: 06:10

It I don't know. I think you know, I gotta be honest with you. When I first started doing readings, I didn't want to be wrong, and that's the ego. I didn't wanna be wrong. I was so excited that these gifts had been revealed to me, and I wanted to share them, you know, with everybody.

Missy: 06:26

And I wanted them to believe it as much as I was believing it. So I would sometimes leave out details because I didn't wanna be wrong, and then I would find out that those were the very details that would have made it feel even more personal that dad was stepping forward and talking about something that specific.

Denise: 06:46

Or that they needed it.

Missy: 06:48

They needed it.

Denise: 06:49

Like, if dad drove a yellow Corvette in 1969, and I think you actually have an example of something similar. Right? Like, we would see the Corvette, but you're like, god, if I say yellow, yellow is so specific. Right? Like, who drives a yellow car?

Denise: 07:05

And then sometimes spirits like, just say it. You know, I did a reading where here, this is a good example of trust. Right? I did a reading of a a friend who passed away in an accident. And he showed me the motorcycle. I was like, I'm seeing a motorcycle. He said it was a motorcycle. I saw a bumblebee. Saw a bumblebee in my third eye. So now I'm like, okay.

Denise: 07:27

So what do I do with this? Right? So I was like, your friend is showing me a bumblebee. Does that mean anything to you? And they were like, we just had a baby. We named the baby bee. Right? Was like, oh, so that's the friend acknowledging the bee. Well, by the time we get to the end of the reading, he shows me that he's wearing a yellow and black striped shirt. Right?

Denise: 07:51

That looks like a bumblebee. So I I say at the end of the reading, by the way, he's showing me this striped shirt. And they said that was his favorite shirt. We cremated him in that shirt. And there was a phrase on it.

Denise: 08:04

It was inappropriate. It was like something about doing something to somebody's mother. I don't know. He loved it. He wore it all the time.

Denise: 08:09

Right? But I remember wondering and I said it in the reading. I wonder if that's why he showed the bumblebee. But do you see how I could easily like have been thwarted by seeing the bumblebee, they named their child Bee and I'm thinking, okay, that's it. But then all of a sudden at the very end, he puts a cherry on top showing you the shirt that literally looked like a bumblebee. And so I thought that would that's a great example of trusting. And it could have been a double entendre. Is that the right phrase that I'm using?

Denise: 08:40

Like, it had two meanings. Right? The bumblebee was the baby and also the shirt as a signifier, if that makes any sense.

Missy: 08:48

But that's also you having trust enough in spirit that you're gonna allow the messages to continue to unfold without just completely shutting it down after, okay. Be the child. Okay. We're done.

Missy: 09:05

But that was really you saying, okay. Maybe there's more to this, or I'll let this unfold as it's naturally intended to for me, you know, through Spirit in this reading.

Denise: 09:17

Yeah. And I and I also feel like remember when we talked about I think it was last step. I don't remember which episode. But we talked about how I was off the clock and I was eating dinner and Spirit was like, go talk to that lady. I said and then she ended up coming to me.

Denise: 09:29

I feel like Spirit does that in our sessions also. Like, sometimes I will ignore something that I see because I feel like, ugh, it doesn't go with what we're talking about. And then they'll somehow bring it back. I felt like that bumblebee somehow was brought right back, if that makes any sense.

Missy: 09:45

No. absolutely. It's it's almost like if the connection is one thing, but it was really meant for another thing. Right? Like, it could be for the the child, but it was really about the T shirt.

Missy: 09:59

Right. You know? So I just like how spirit will continue to work with us. Yeah. And then in between, there are other messages, like, to get the attention of the person that you're reading for.

Missy: 10:10

Okay. We're really gonna get their attention, and then, like you said, we're gonna throw the cherry on top, and this is how we're gonna end this. So now you know. Yeah. So I do like how spirit is very methodical.

Missy: 10:23

Right? But spirit can also be very calculating in the way they go about, you know, bringing through the messages. But as I was sharing with you in the very beginning when I was doing readings, I was just so excited about, wow. Life is really changing for me, and I can't believe this is happening to me because of anybody who has had a conversation with me knows that I was so sick of the corporate world and literally crying out to God and asking, you have to do something. I'm I'm not going to make it.

Missy: 10:52

And whatever you're doing, you have to do it fast. And then two weeks later, you pop into my life, and and and I've been on this trajectory ever since. So I remember doing a reading for a woman in my office, and she really wanted to connect to her father. And I brought her father through, and I I was feeling things physically from him that my legs were starting to swell. My feet were starting to swell.

Missy: 11:16

There was something going on with kind of my lower extremities, and my feet felt like they were just gonna bust out of my shoes. Like, they just didn't fit properly. And I asked her if that resonated with her as it related to her father, and she said, yeah. He died from complication with diabetes and always retained a lot of fluid in his legs, in particular, his feet. And at that time, I heard very distinctly him say, New Balance sneakers and flip flops.

Missy: 11:49

But I thought that was so specific, and it it didn't make sense to me, so I didn't say anything.

Denise: 11:55

Mhmm.

Missy: 11:55

And then she went on to say, yeah. So much so. He would swell so much that the only thing he could wear were New Balance sneakers and flip flops. And I was so angry at myself for filtering, for really not trusting, but, obviously, the excuse is that I was still new and doing readings, but I still sort of filter. I I do. Yeah.

Denise: 12:24

Because I was gonna correct you when you was like, I'm still new. It's like, no. Even when we're old, girl. Like, I still I find that I will filter and spirit will always catch me. I had a client who this was years ago when they lived in Hawaii.

Denise: 12:40

And I remember there was a volcano eruption. It was Kilauea and they were so close and they had a farm. And so they were like, our neighbors are starting to pack up. What do we do? We're nervous. And spirit kept saying, you're going to be okay. You're gonna be okay. And they were like, okay, Denise, you know, we trust you. Right? That's the part that scares me. Right? They trust me that I trust spirit enough that I'm hearing correctly. And then I and this was God, this was like in '20 god,

Denise: 13:13

twenties I wanna say 2017. I have to Google and see when this this huge eruption happened. And I remember even after the reading, they were more confident than I was. Right? They were so confident that all was gonna be well.

Denise: 13:26

And I remember watching the news and I started following the volcano's projection. Missy, the next day, another explosion. We're evacuating more. The day after, it's not stopping. And I was like, should I reach out to them?

Denise: 13:41

Should I ask them what's going on? I was still nervous, still very green. And the third day, we thought this was gonna stop. It's not stopping. And I was like, oh my gosh. I didn't know their exact location, But I remember, like, trying to try to figure it out by mileage, five miles, and then it was going one way and then it veered west. And I was like, oh my god. I think they're west. Like, I was losing sleep for days. I was too afraid to reach out.

Denise: 14:13

Right? And then months later, I see that they booked. And I was like, okay. Well, the good news is they're alive and, you know, they're well. And during the reading, I'm like, so how did things go with the volcano?

Denise: 14:27

And they were like, oh, yeah. It's fine. It actually was one quarter mile away from our house and it just stopped. So we're good. And then she's like, so anyways, our kids and then like nothing.

Denise: 14:40

Is why I always say to people, when we get testimonials, guys, you don't know how important it is for us. Sometimes people think we hear like, Good job, or, you know, This is what happened, and thank God, know, Thank you so much for your help. We don't get that a lot. A lot of times people think we get the praise all the time, but no, sometimes we need to hear it. So they were like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, it stopped. It was one quarter from our house and then it just stopped. So we were good. Anyways, moving on. Why? Because they had trust in me when they spoke to me.

Denise: 15:15

Right? Spirit wouldn't tell them anything wrong. But yet here I was so insecure the whole time. Like, I was imagining Spirit, like, watching me eating popcorn on the other side just like, what is she gonna learn? Right?

Missy: 15:30

Eating popcorn.

Denise: 15:31

Like, just eating popcorn, watching me panic for those days and then thinking I didn't hear from them. Is it weird for me to reach out to them? I think I'm just not gonna say anything and then they pop up and they wanna talk about the next thing. Why? Because they had the trust

Missy: 15:45

They have the in trust.

Denise: 15:45

Me that I was trusting enough in spirit. But, yeah, we have these moments where we get we get insecure. Yeah.

Missy: 15:54

I did a reading recently for a holistic dentist. Oh. And, yeah, very, very cool. Right? And in the reading, I kept seeing a cookbook.

Missy: 16:09

And I thought, this isn't right. Why would you be showing me, like, a a holistic dentist with a cookbook? This this is not making sense. But I remember in the moment spirit saying to me, just repeat it. You know, just say it.

Missy: 16:31

And I just I remember saying there's a cookbook or or something along those lines. And just the other day, she reached out and she said that she had signed up to take a third level biological dental course. That's pretty intense, but the major underlying component is emphasizing the importance of eliminating inflammatory foods and replacing them with less toxic foods, leading to a diet regime for pre and post surgery for her patients. She goes, I couldn't believe or see how your vision was going to come to fruition until during the course it hit me.

Denise: 17:17

There you go.

Missy: 17:18

When I got that, like, I'm getting goosebumps right now. When I got that email Yeah. I was like the first thing I thought to myself, oh, was, oh, so I'm not crazy. Like Yeah. Okay.

Missy: 17:30

So I can trust even though I still filter, even though I still have the moments of doubt. This was so off course for a holistic dentist for me to go, Why am I seeing this? But in that moment when Spirit was speaking to me and bringing through that message and I was seeing the cookbook, it did not make sense, but I made the choice to you know what? I'm gonna roll the dice. Yeah.

Missy: 17:58

And that doesn't make anything that doesn't make sense for a second to say. I'm just gonna roll the dice. But in the moment, I said, I'm gonna roll the dice, and I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna take a chance, and I'm gonna believe and fully trust 100% that what's coming through, what I am seeing, what I am hearing is going to have an impact for her. Maybe not today, but it's gonna have an impact somewhere down the line.

Missy: 18:20

And this is also a lesson for the person sitting for the reading for you to understand that sometimes in the moment as you're receiving messages, it won't make sense.

Denise: 18:33

That's right.

Missy: 18:34

It may not unravel for you or unfold for you for a month or two months or three months, but at some point, it will, and it will have the impact that it is supposed to have at the time that it is revealed to you. There may need to be something you need to go through in the months previous to understanding the message fully. So you may need to go through the first couple of months of meeting someone or having conversation or taking a course. You know, this the reading that I had with her was April. She just took this course.

Missy: 19:07

Here we are in June. So a couple months later

Denise: 19:10

Oh, July. Finally We're in July.

Missy: 19:12

It finally makes sense to her.

Denise: 19:14

But that's also an indicator of us not getting insecure. So people who do do readings that are listening to us, do your best not to get insecure. Twenty plus years ago, someone said to me, you're going to be a psychic. You're going to run your own business. And twenty four, twenty five years ago, I didn't believe in what I do today.

Denise: 19:34

So you can only imagine what my face looked like in that session when she said that to me. The whole time I was like, this lady is absolutely insane. Right? She's absolutely insane. Oh, you're gonna be writing.

Denise: 19:46

In my head, I'm like, I'm not a writer. You're gonna have your own business. I wouldn't even dream of creating something on my own. And that was twenty four, twenty five years ago. So I'm sorry lady that I probably walked out of there disgusted.

Denise: 20:01

If you're listening, I don't know if you're listening. I'm just so I'm I'm grateful, and that's why I've learned that when I'm in a reading, especially when I'm talking about life's purpose, your life's purpose, I will always tell people and I start off with jot down everything I say. I don't care if you're recording, writing, jot down everything I say because I'm gonna say a lot of things that don't make sense. I look at my life and I think about how I went from, you know, performing musical theater, and then I got sick and I had to delay that part of my life. And then I worked in corporate America and now I'm a psychic.

Denise: 20:35

Can you imagine if somebody told me that at 25 years old, that this is what my life would look like? Wouldn't believe anything that they said. There's no way I could wrap my brain around that. And I think this is also important to share. Spirit will always tell you what they know you can handle.

Denise: 20:53

So if I have a client that comes to me and they happen to give me a name that says, oh, you're gonna meet a guy named Jeff in the beginning of the year. And then they meet a guy named Jeff at a New Year's Eve party. And then they tell their friend and send a referral. And then that friend's like, hey, can you tell me my guy's name? And Spirit's like, no.

Denise: 21:11

Right? That's not your reading. That's not your path. Right? And so there are people who will sit and read with us and think, if she couldn't do that for me, then I guess she's just not as great as as people say she is. Well, maybe that's because spirit knows that every Sam you meet, you're going to think that's your guy or every time you see a bald black man, you're gonna think that's the guy, right? They know your personality. They know what you can handle and what you can't. And we as the reader, we have to have the confidence in knowing that if Spirit was willing to give this one a name, height, eye color, location, and then they don't wanna do that for the friend, there's a reason for that.

Denise: 21:54

Yeah. Right? Yeah. You know, we were talking earlier today about a mutual friend of ours who can't find their crypto password. And look how many times people have asked us in readings to help them find something and we get it like that.

Denise: 22:13

Then there's somewhere it's not that easy. And for this friend, it's like, well, I wonder why the two of us, we get little glimpses of where it is, but we're not getting exact things. Like, maybe it's because there's a lesson that needs to be learned here.

Denise: 22:30

Right? For sure.

Missy: 22:31

Yeah. For sure. And, you know, I wanna go back to you were talking about, you're gonna meet a guy named Jeff, and then for the friend, there was no name. Right? And and I think a lot of that has to do with becoming almost obsessive compulsive or hyper fixated on oh, if you said, okay.

Missy: 22:50

His name is Sam, like you were using as an example. And now they're only looking for men named Sam. Right. And they're missing the guy named Jared that is their that is their one. Right?

Missy: 23:04

He just keeps walking by, and she's ignoring because his name isn't Sam. And so that's part of the journey that you need to be on is to be open to the experiences of letting life just unfold. And I I know you've talked about this before, which is about standing in faith. So we have to stand in faith as the person doing the reading, but also the person receiving standing in faith and letting life unfold as it's naturally intended.

Denise: 23:31

And by the way, that client who met that Jeff, she and Jeff dated for two years and then it was over. Right? So Right. Spirit wasn't showing your life's partner. Right?

Denise: 23:41

Or the person you're gonna spend the rest of your life with. They were just showing her the immediate next. And then there's a reason for that. Is it that they didn't talk about the long term person, which by the way, she is with her long term person and her baby is due any day now and I'm super excited. But why is it that they didn't give that to her?

Denise: 24:00

Can you imagine if I had to say to her, the guy that you're gonna spend the rest of your life with and have babies with, you're not gonna meet him for another seven years? Yeah. What would that have done to her psyche? No. So we're gonna focus on Jeff, who's only gonna last two years.

Denise: 24:12

But they know, you guys, your spirit guides know what you can and you cannot handle. So be patient. If you're in a reading and you want these certain specifics and you're not getting it, I always encourage people to talk to other psychics. Right? I always say, if you don't feel comfortable, like, why there's a lot of other people out there.

Denise: 24:32

Why don't you get the comfort that you're looking for? But, yeah, sometimes spirit does it deliberately because they know who you are, how you are, how you deal with things. Like Missy just said, you can be hyper fixated. Right? Yeah.

Denise: 24:46

Yeah.

Missy: 24:46

I agree with you. I also think that it's part of our life lessons. So maybe you not meeting the person when you need to meet them has nothing to do with you not being of value or worthy of being in relationship. It may be that this is the time that you need to spend learning how to love yourself. It could be that this is the time that you're learning patience.

Missy: 25:08

This could be the time that you're working on your career because when this person does come into your life, it may be the time that you step away from a career and you help to build a family and you can give the effort and the time commitment that you need to in order to build a relationship. So I always know that there's a bigger picture to why we have to wait for certain things. We can use me as an example. I mean, I could really have complained that, well, these gifts were revealed to me very late in life, and Spirit expected me to walk away from a corporate career of over thirty years to now start this life. Like, why?

Missy: 25:48

Why didn't you reveal this to me when I was in my twenties and I could have had this built this wonderful career around it? I wasn't ready. Nope. You know, I I know that now. Right?

Missy: 25:58

And look at and you can look at life experiences and say, my god. If I didn't go through this, how could I help so many people? Or how could I be so compassionate? We have to go through our own journey in order to be able to help other people through theirs. That's why I think I said this to you before, like I laughed when I found out like there was a 21 year old that was a life coach.

Denise: 26:20

Like, you're 21, like what are you teaching me? Now don't get me wrong, she could have had a really, you know, rough life and had to grow up really quickly, but dude, you're not gonna sit and be able to relate with a divorcee who's Like, it Right. There's certain things we have to go through, and don't get me wrong, there are young intuitives out there. I know 26 and 27 year olds that are doing this and it's been under their belt. But you said something that really struck a chord with me.

Denise: 26:48

My brother, when he was in his I think he was his early thirties or late twenties, We realized he was really good at cooking. And I said, you know, you should probably go to culinary school. And he was like, culinary school, how long is that? And I was like, I think it's like a two year program. And he was like, two years.

Denise: 27:07

I don't have time for that. Two years. Two years is so long. I'm like, two years is nothing. Oh, I'm 27, I don't have time for that.

Denise: 27:14

Right? No. Four years later, still not doing anything with culinary. He could have gone to school, right? And then two years after that, he's diagnosed with MS and he can't even use his right hand.

Denise: 27:27

So I think about things like that, right? Yeah. You could have gone to culinary school in your twenties and you could have had the best six years of doing what you love before your illness took over. Right? So you feel like it's almost like a missed opportunity Right? And so I think it's so important that we understand how you like, carpe diem. I know it's so cheesy, but you just gotta live life. And when you get a reading and you get information, yes, you sit and you'll honor and you listen to your own intuition. I remember getting a reading when I was learning that I had this gift and I hung up with the lady and I was like, everything she just said, I know for a fact is not true. I knew for a fact what she said to me was not true and was not going to happen.

Denise: 28:21

And I always tell people, you are your greatest intuitive. You are your greatest intuitive. So you have to trust yourself and you gotta trust your decision and the psychic that you're working with. And you've gotta trust that that psychic is trusting spirit. Spirit.

Denise: 28:38

And trusting the right spirit. Forgot to mention this with you. But, know, I had someone send us an email the other day about, I don't know if you saw that email on our inbox. Did you? Have you looked at our inbox lately?

Missy: 28:51

The one where they wanted to bring somebody on the show? You know, that one.

Denise: 28:59

Right.

Missy: 28:59

The one where we the one we red flagged it.

Denise: 29:02

We red flagged it immediately. Yeah. It's called using discernment. So we got an email in our inbox of someone who wanted to come on our show to talk about how they have transformed a dark entity. I'll leave it at that.

Denise: 29:18

And now that dark entity is in heaven hanging out with God. Yeah. Something like that. Whatever. Right?

Denise: 29:25

Like, I don't think we needed to be intuitive to kind of figure out that this is not our speed. This is not it's just not our thing. I I don't want to talk to anybody who's channeling a demon or Satan. Sorry.

Missy: 29:39

I agree, which is why it got red flagged. I don't want people to think that we don't read or we're not inquisitive or, you know, this is really or anything. I mean, we both read it, but our But we are gonna respond.

Denise: 29:54

We are gonna respond to the person.

Missy: 29:56

It just it didn't resonate with the work that we do. There was something that for each of us, it both felt off or not resonant with us at all, but we do read all of our inquiries. Yes. And we give it thought, but also rely on our intuition. Not only collectively do we discuss it, but also relying on the guidance from spirit.

Missy: 30:20

Yes, no, maybe, or what to do with it

Denise: 30:23

And, like, I'm just bringing it up right now. I haven't even mentioned it to Missy. It's been in our inbox for about a week and a half now. She didn't bring it up and I didn't bring it up. You know what? There's my answer. Right? There's our answer. So even when you're trying to find the right intuitive for you, like, also ask yourself, does this feel good to me?

Denise: 30:42

I had a client tell me that she took a pendulum and she put it in front of my website. Like that's how she feel. Listen, whatever floats your boat, right? Whatever you need to do that makes you feel comfortable. Missy and I were talking and she brought up the importance of just like how important it is that we trust implicitly.

Denise: 31:00

You have to trust spirit. You have to trust that you're connecting with your spirit guides. If you don't feel like you're connecting with your spirit guides, if you feel like you might be connecting and channeling something else, you know, pull back from it. There's always a feeling. Before I even pull my oracle deck, I will quickly say a prayer like if, you know, my daughter calls and she's just like, oh my god, quick.

Denise: 31:19

Like, what does Jake think of me? I say my quick prayer and then I keep pulling until I feel spirit around me. What does that feel like? You've gotta figure out what that feels like to you. And then sometimes I'll look for certain cards, and I'll know, okay.

Denise: 31:32

Boom. They're here. Ready. Okay. Now I can go, and now I'm gonna ask.

Denise: 31:36

Right? You just gotta find what feels comfortable to you.

Missy: 31:42

Yeah. No. And I actually the the point you brought up before was encouraging people to seek out different psychics. Yes. You know?

Missy: 31:50

I I love that. I love when people come to me, and one of the first things I ask them is, have you ever had a reading before? Yep. And I get, yes, I would probably say a good 75% of the time. And I enjoy that.

Missy: 32:04

So what it tells me, they're open to the experience. And that's what's important for me. As a person who doesn't pull cards, I really rely on the flow of the energy happening between us, them being open to the experience, and me needing them to be open to it. So that's really important for me. So I do encourage people to see other psychics or go to other other mediums. And yeah. So I think that's important

Denise: 32:34

I love both. I love when someone tells me they've been to a psychic before. It doesn't feel like a challenge. I just feel like they're I know they're gonna get a very different experience with me.

Denise: 32:45

And so I get excited about that. And I also get excited when people like, nope, this is my first time. And I always joke, oh, I'll be gentle. It's your first time.

Missy: 32:53

I usually will for first time readers, I might say something like, you know, don't worry. You know, spirit's not going to embarrass you or shame you or talk about the pencils that you stole in third grade that you never returned. And usually, that will you know, I use something funny like that to get them to relax. And I always will typically say, it's going to feel like a conversation just, you know, two people just enjoying conversation with each other in spirit has nothing but the best intentions for your highest good in the reading.

Denise: 33:23

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Missy: 33:24

Do you wanna pull a card?

Denise: 33:26

You know what? Yes. I would like to pull a card. Let me go grab a deck really quickly.

Missy: 33:32

Okay.

Denise: 33:36

Guides surround the collective with the white light of the Holy Spirit. As we begin to pull, says you and your loved ones are safe. You and your loved ones are safe.

Missy: 33:54

I like that. I yeah.

Denise: 33:55

I instantly felt family. Mhmm. Right? Because some people could you can just see that and think friendships and things like that. You and your loved ones, people you love and care. But I got family.

Denise: 34:07

So for the collective, got, you guys are gonna be okay. I actually shared a story with you. That's why I paused because I wanted to make sure that I wasn't infiltrating what my story was with the card, but spirit said, no, no, no. This is a collective. Yeah.

Denise: 34:23

There's a little bit of drama going on in my family right now, and it's kinda hardened me a little bit and I'm doing my best to soften up about it. And I think that not only did I need to hear that, but they said the collective needs to hear it as well. You and your loved ones are safe. Whatever's going on right now, we're gonna get through it and we're gonna get past it. And give it time to heal.

Denise: 34:50

Give it time to heal. There's some changes going on. Give it time to heal.

Missy: 34:54

This could also mean too because, you know, where I am, for anybody that's listening to this out in, let's say, Arizona or anyone listening, say, in Colorado, this is wildfire season, and we have had quite a few fires and, pocket fires up in the canyon in Sedona, and it's displaced wildlife, people. You know, we've got our firefighters. But, you know, this goes to that you and your family are going to be safe if this happens to be something that you're experiencing. And summertime is also a popular time where people get on the road. They're traveling. You've got family reunions. There's a lot of that going on too. So Yeah. You know, that no matter where you're going and what you're doing. Right?

Denise: 35:45

Also, thinking about, our European listeners. My god. I know, like, a thousand people died in France just from this heat wave. So just collectively, it showed me specifically family and it says you and your loved ones are safe. So you guys out there that are struggling a little bit, hang in there.

Denise: 36:04

Know that all is gonna be well. It will get better.

Missy: 36:08

Yeah. So, guys, as always, we appreciate you sharing our episodes with your friends, listening regularly that we love that. We love the support. If you haven't liked, followed, or shared, please continue to do so. And, also, if there's anything that myself or Denise can do for you, please let us know.

Missy: 36:29

You can reach me, through website 3rd-eye-open.com. And, Denise, where can people reach you?

Denise: 36:36

You can find me at divine guidance nine four four dot com or denise powell nine four four dot com. You guys can also find me on denise powell nine four four on Instagram. I noticed that we don't really talk about our Instagram, but Missy and I are really bad on social media, but we're working on it.

Missy: 36:52

We're we're working on it. Yep.

Denise: 36:53

We're working on it.

Missy: 36:54

Yep. And I'm at third eye is open and then the number 11. So third eye is open eleven.

Denise: 37:01

What I used to also do years ago, I used to do a healer spotlight where once a month I tried to promote a healer. So I would love for you guys to send us an email if you're interested in maybe even being a guest. Woowoochannelingcrew@gmail.com. That's woowoochannelingcrew@gmail.com. Come one, come all.

Denise: 37:25

We've got some guest speakers that are gonna be coming up soon from all avenues of healing work. Come one, come all. If you're interested, just shoot us an email and let us know about who you are, what you are, and what you do, and we will definitely get back to you.

Missy: 37:39

Yep. Sounds good. Alright, guys. Well, until next time. We love you. Bye bye.

Denise: 37:46

Bye bye.